Thursday, September 24, 2015

Kid Shootings - Small Price to Pay for Freedom

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  1. Um--the only statement I see being made here comes from the "Everytown" goons, so if there is any lying fanaticism here, it ain't coming from gun rights advocates.

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    1. I'm referring to the fundamental lie so beloved by you fanatics that a gun in the home makes you safer.

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    2. A "lie" that would be debunked were you to post the daily news reports of firearms defending the lives of homeowners and families. You won't do that of course, nor should you philosophically be required to....but such one-sided commentary only serves to make it look as if you don't care about those lives.

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    3. Actually I do occasionally post a true DGU. The fact is they are few and far between - especially compared to all the stories about the misuse of guns.

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    4. "Few and far between" is empty rhetoric without metrics; but since even the most conservative estimate of DGU reporting debunks your characterization....I think you choose that verbiage with intent. I'd be happy to send you a report each and everyday - since they aren't "few and far between".

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    5. My belief is that "even the most conservative estimate of DGU reporting" contains many, perhaps most, which were unnecessary, some of which were actually crimes in their own right. When a guy reports that he brandished his gun and a bad guy ran away, I have to wonder what really happened. When a

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    6. Well, I'll have to hand it to you on this.....if the metrics you use in forming and framing your position, is simply what you believe....it'll be difficult to ever find fault with your position, because you won't test it. Foolproof. Bravo.

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    7. When a homeowner shoots and kills a burglar and reports that his life was really in jeopardy, I wonder if it really was. And on and on. As I said, many, perhaps most, are bullshit and should not even be counted.

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    8. I'm sure that you believe they are.

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  2. Well, just the other day Mike did say that there are one or two kids killed every day which would put it at 250-500 for this point in the year. Everytown's claim that there are only 200 kids shot (which includes injuries) I guess puts them squarely in the "lying gun rights fanatics" camp.

    MikeB: "Of course you're satisfied with this. I'm not. I think the one or two kids who are killed every single day is unacceptable. I think with some simple laws about safe storage, ones which would not interfere with your precious freedom, would make a major difference."

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    1. Good for you TS. You always find the discrepancies in any argument. Of course, the main point remains the same. There are too many kids being shot unnecessarily thanks to your and the other gun rights fanatics' sick idea of precious freedom.

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    2. You always find the discrepancies in any argument.

      And when you find "discrepancies" in any argument for the Constitutionally guaranteed, fundamental human right of the individual to keep and bear arms, you break out the "lying gun rights fanatics" tag (actually, you use that even without such "discrepancies," but that's an issue for another time.

      And again, you dismiss your "discrepancies" as irrelevant, and don't bother to explain why anyone should ever take your assertions seriously, when you've just proven (again) that you're quite willing to pull random "facts" out of your ass, in blissful disregard of whether or not they have any basis in reality.

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    3. Well, Kurt, that's not why you don't take me seriously. That would be because I continually show you to be in the wrong and you're not honest enough to admit it. Even some of your fellow fanatics will ocassionally admit that I make a good point from time to time, but not you.

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    4. Well, Kurt, that's not why you don't take me seriously.

      I don't take you seriously because you're puerile joke. What I referred to above, though, was why anyone should take your assertions seriously, given your penchant for just making shit up as it suits you, and when called on it, implying that your accuser is being petty by trying to impose some standard of integrity on you.

      That would be because I continually show you to be in the wrong . . .

      I'm still waiting. Not holding my breath, though.

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    5. If I were really a "puerile joke" in your opinion you wouldn't spend so much time here arguing with me. But we already know what a liar you are, so when you express an opinion, it may or may not be what you really think.

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    6. If I were really a "puerile joke" in your opinion you wouldn't spend so much time here arguing with me.

      A man's gotta have hobbies, Mikeb, and I've discovered that pointing out about 2% of the evidence of your moral and intellectual bankruptcy is a lot of fun. Wish I had time to talk about the other 98%.

      But we already know what a liar you are . . .

      Who is "we"--you and your anonymously idiotic little buddy?

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    7. No Kurt, the proof is in your obvious lies

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  3. I wonder how many of the "kids" shot are 16, 17, 18, or even 19 year old "kids" that were shot by a gang member while participating in other illegal activity or in retribution for a previous crime committed against another gang.

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    1. That's a good point. I too object to the sliding age brackets they sometimes use to describe "kids." The point remains, however.

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  4. Gun loons tell us we have to accept theses deaths by gun shot because of their bastardized reading of the 2nd A. I'm sure the founding fathers meant that children would have to die because of their 2nd A, and that was OK with them.

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