Tuesday, September 22, 2015

More on the Incredible Irresponsibility of Leaving Guns in Cars

Southern Beale

This is the kind of thing we warned about when the Tennessee Legislature forced guns-in-cars on us:
Several guns stolen from cars in Bartlett over weekend
BARTLETT, Tenn. — Four more guns are in the wrong hands on Mid-South streets Wednesday.
Bartlett Police confirmed three cars were broken into over the weekend and four guns were stolen.
One of the victims agreed to speak with WREG to prevent this from happening to others. He said he did not want to be identified because the crook or crooks are still out there.
“My stomach dropped. My heart sank,” he said.
The gun owner recalled the moment he saw the holster in his car was empty Sunday. The rag he used to cover the handle of the gun was on the seat.
You mean the magic invisibility rag you used to hide your gun didn’t work? Shocked face!
But this one for the win:
Police reports showed that all three cars that were broken into over the weekend were parked at home. Police reports suggested at least two of the three cars were left unlocked.
The man we spoke with admitted he left his car unlocked because he felt his neighborhood was very safe.
If your neighborhood is so safe, why the hell do you need a gun in the first place?

Southern Beale had a lot more to say about this insanity, but I'll provide just one more quote: "You. Fucking. Idiots."

24 comments:

  1. Generally speaking [but not in every case] I agree with not leaving a firearm in your unattended vehicle. Either on-body carry or leave it home.

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    1. And by "leave at home," exactly what are you talking about?

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    2. What was unclear about what I wrote?

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    3. It was unclear whether or not you practice safe storage at home. Maybe, you're like TS and consider it a precious freedom to leave your guns unsecured at home.

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    4. You mean the freedom to not be arrested because someone like you (who knows nothing about guns, and doesn't promote/teach safe practices) decided the criteria for "safe-storage" as a blanket application for all homes? Yeah, the freedom to not be imprisoned is precious. I'm part if the people who are making a difference, as we can see in the reduction of gun accidents. You just want to lock people up.

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    5. Perhaps you simply read too much into what people say, in order to find venues to project your narrative.

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  2. "Police reports suggested at least two of the three cars were left unlocked.
    The man we spoke with admitted he left his car unlocked because he felt his neighborhood was very safe."

    I don't imagine that they'll be charged with violating the law mentioned because there is a requirement that the car be locked.

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    1. The reason they won't be charged is because of the awful nonchalance with which you civilian gun owners are treated when you fuck up. In some cases that's reflected in the total lack of laws against certain behavior, in others it simply the special treatment you usually receive.

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  3. SS thinks a car is a very safe place to keep a gun.
    "Southern Beale had a lot more to say about this insanity, but I'll provide just one more quote: "You. Fucking. Idiots."

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    1. Yes. TS probably considers it another precious freedome - the right to leave your gun in the glove compartment when the car is unattended.

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    2. You're being a real jerk today.

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    3. Here's the deal, Mike. There are people out there making a difference to reduce gun accidents. You're not one of them. You sit behind your computer from afar crying "there ought to be a law"- a law which won't pass because most people aren't that much of statists. So why should anyone listen to you when you talk about gun safety? Get out there and make a difference like what the NRA and NSSF are doing, or the millions of grass-roots safety advocates such as myself are doing- then get back to us about safety.

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    4. The NRA is making a difference? Laughable, they only add to the gun shot dead count, just like you.

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    5. " You're not one of them."

      And you know that? Is it not possible that all the discussions on this blog have perhaps reminded someone or encouraged someone to improve their personal habits of gun security? Isn't that what advocates do, they talk?

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    6. Sure, Mike, but I recommend they go down to the comment section to get good information from the pro-gun people, like you said they should do to find out the truth about what SYG laws protect and don't protect.

      How about my earlier challenge that you at least acknowledge the good that has been done by the NRA and NSSF that has helped to reduce gun accident death by 93% since it was tracked as a statistic. This should be common ground, Mike. Can you at least give some kudos?

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    7. Total BS. The NRA has not reduced gun accident deaths by 93%, just a total lie.

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    8. I said they "helped" to reduce gun accidents- along with the NSSF and millions of grass-roots safety advocates in the shooting community.

      What do you say, Mike? Are you not willing to give any credit like our friend here?

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    9. Yeah, there is some credit due there. I have no problem with that. The problem is their efforts only reach a percentage of gun owners. Too many are making the news every day seemingly deaf and blind to the message. That's why we need stronger laws especially about safe storage.

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    10. Not when they lie and claim the NRA is leading gun safety measures; and that has been proven as a lie, so on with your lies............

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  4. Beale... The Great and Powerful; also stated that murder rates in big cities this summer are up. Up a whole lot.

    http://news.yahoo.com/summer-bloodshed-us-murder-rates-rise-073034837.html

    That was my take-away.

    More guns = more death and mayhem. Simple equation. No matter what the corollaries signify.

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    1. "Beale... The Great and Powerful; also stated that murder rates in big cities this summer are up. Up a whole lot."

      Howdy FJ, hope all is well out your way. We did discuss this increase here not too long ago. Many of the articles mention the "Ferguson Effect" as this one does. Mike of course brought up something along the lines of your belief that more guns equal more crime, claiming if I recall correctly that we reached a saturation point to explain the sudden increase that does seem to coincide with the recent civil unrest in response to perceived unjustified police shootings.
      I tend to go with the Ferguson Effect as the most likely explanation. An old friend of mine who recently retired from a position in California state law enforcement also agrees that it's likely the Ferguson Effect, and he has a pretty good read on crime issues.
      As for Beale, the Great and Powerful, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....

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    2. The other evening, I saw across the highway the familiar sight of a police car pulling over a motorist after dark. I laughed to myself, hoping that it was nothing serious like DWI. But then I thought, "If this was in another city, or another community, and this motorist was black, they might not just be facing an expensive citation or the loss of their privilege, they very likely might have ended up in jail or dead. All due to the escalation that so very often takes place between black people and law enforcement. Proper awareness and training can reduce the number of these incidents. We've all seen the videos. The black woman who was supposedly pulled over for not signalling a lane change and ended up being hung in her jail cell. Another mentally person beaten to a pulp inside a jail or prison.

      I'm not trying to be the Devil's advocate here...

      But doesn't this idea of a "Ferguson effect", more or less, place all the blame for increased violence squarely on the black communities in our nation?

      The Ferguson effect that I am seeing is an increased awareness in working towards understanding the tensions and very real problems that exist between the personnel of many law enforcement agencies and the black citizens that they are sworn to protect. I see this as mostly lining out important areas which we all need to pledge to work on together.

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    3. Flying junior: "But then I thought, "If this was in another city, or another community, and this motorist was black, they might not just be facing an expensive citation or the loss of their privilege..."

      You mean the city/community that you live in which regularly shuts down the freeway waving all white people passed doesn't engage in racial profiling?

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